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    <id>tag:dreamwidth.org,2009-05-03:244784:319333</id>
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    <title>D&amp;D setting suggestion: The Ancient Sands</title>
    <published>2021-02-03T18:38:02Z</published>
    <updated>2021-02-03T18:38:02Z</updated>
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    <content type="html">&lt;p&gt;So, we learned today that D&amp;D's default setting has, instead of an entire meaningful afterlife for atheist&lt;sup&gt;&lt;a href="#ancientsands1note" name="ancientsands1ref"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; characters the way worshippers of gods have, those characters' souls get used as bricks in moldy wall somewhere-or-other off in some Astral Plane sub-plane or something: &lt;a href="https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Wall_of_the_Faithless"&gt;The Wall of the Faithless&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That's boring. I think there's way better ways to acknowledge the presence of players with characters who don't want to worship any of the gods in the setting - ways which grant the faithless dead afterlives as thematic and as good a source of plot hooks as any of the others. Honestly, there's a lot of better ways. Here's one for y'all's amusement, though.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those who die without connection to any gods are sent instead to the Ancient Sands, a plane of trackless desert whose sun circles the horizon endlessly, offering no means of navigation. Those alive or dead that choose to wander the plane, however, find themselves coming upon first landmarks, then people, with those they encounter being connected to their own alignment. In this way, these souls find fates in keeping with their choices - the cruel surrounded by the cruel and the kind by the kind - with those who wish for stability seeking out a resting place and those who wish for novelty forever exploring the place and its people.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="#ancientsands1ref" name="ancientsands1note"&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt; In this case, worshipping no gods rather than thinking none exist.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=packbat&amp;ditemid=319333" width="30" height="12" alt="comment count unavailable" style="vertical-align: middle;"/&gt; comments</content>
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    <title>A Challenge to Theists and Theist-Friendly Persons</title>
    <published>2010-09-28T18:52:40Z</published>
    <updated>2010-09-28T21:27:16Z</updated>
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    <content type="html">&lt;i&gt;Post edited ~5:20p EDT - thanks, &lt;span style='white-space: nowrap;'&gt;&lt;a href='http://zwol.livejournal.com/profile'&gt;&lt;img src='https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif' alt='[livejournal.com profile] ' style='vertical-align: text-bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;' width='17' height='17'/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href='http://zwol.livejournal.com/'&gt;&lt;b&gt;zwol&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, I'm coming back into blogging with a fury, aren't I? First politics, and now religion!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Those of you who do not follow the atheist blogosphere may not be aware of the long, boring back-and-forths between the "New Atheists" and the "accommodationists". To summarize: the latter frequently accuse the former of being mean to theists (people who believe that one or more gods exist) and the former retort that the latter are being intellectually dishonest. What's annoying about it is that the argument &lt;del datetime="2010-09-28T17:18:25-04"&gt;never actually connects to the essential disagreement,&lt;/del&gt; &lt;ins datetime="2010-09-28T17:18:25-04"&gt;edit: rarely gets back to actual questions of fact. &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-shook-phd/for-atheists-and-believer_b_715546.html"&gt;The latest brouhaha&lt;/a&gt;, for example, relates to&lt;/ins&gt; a question which "New Atheists" answer in the negative and &lt;ins datetime="2010-09-28T17:18:25-04"&gt;many&lt;/ins&gt; "accommodationists" answer in the positive: do any people have sufficient intellectual justification to believe that a god is real?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And for that reason, I want to congratulate Larry Moran, who &lt;a href="http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2010/09/challenge-to-theists-and-their.html"&gt;is addressing this question.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;This brings me to my challenge. I challenge all theists and all their accommodationist friends to post their very best 21st century, sophisticated (or not), arguments for the existence of God. They can put them in the comments section of this posting, or on any of the other atheist blogs, or on their own blogs and websites. Just send me the link.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/09/show_me.php"&gt;Link via pharyngula&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If anyone in the audience believes that there are good reasons to believe that a god exists (or has a friend who so believes), please &lt;a href="http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2010/09/challenge-to-theists-and-their.html"&gt;contact Prof. Moran&lt;/a&gt; (or have your friend do so) by &lt;strong&gt;Saturday, October 2&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As a footnote, though: I realize that there are a subset of people who would answer in the affirmative to the question above &lt;em&gt;without&lt;/em&gt; answering Moran's challenge: some people believe that they possess evidence good enough to convince themselves, but that their evidence cannot be communicated to anyone else. Whether this is true is a philosophical question, and one which I would be glad to discuss ... but unrelated to the announcement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember: &lt;strong&gt;if you believe that a God exists and you can prove it, or if you know someone who so believes, &lt;a href="http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2010/09/challenge-to-theists-and-their.html"&gt;tell Larry Moran&lt;/a&gt; by Saturday, October 2.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=packbat&amp;ditemid=292505" width="30" height="12" alt="comment count unavailable" style="vertical-align: middle;"/&gt; comments</content>
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    <title>Greta Christina: The Top One Reason Religion Is Harmful</title>
    <published>2009-11-16T17:54:41Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-16T17:54:41Z</updated>
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    <content type="html">&lt;a href="http://www.alternet.org/belief/143912/the_top_one_reason_religion_is_harmful_"&gt;On AlterNet&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Caveat: If the title suggests that you don't want to read this, then please don't read it. I'm mostly posting for my own reference.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=packbat&amp;ditemid=275269" width="30" height="12" alt="comment count unavailable" style="vertical-align: middle;"/&gt; comments</content>
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