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Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 12:17 am
  • 10:26 Y'know what I deplore? The "anyone from 100+ years ago brought forward to today would be terrified" meme. Humanity hasn't changed that much. #
  • 11:25 @fadeaccompli Doubly so when there's a trash bin. I've seen a healthy young man standing less than ten feet from it drop a peel at his feet. #
  • 11:41 @fadeaccompli Granted, there's not a great supply of ashtrays around these days. Cup lids, though - there's no excuse. Always carry out. #
  • 11:54 @fadeaccompli I've a lot of tolerance for addicts - probably be a horrible enabler. But at minimum I'd want them to grind out their butts. #
  • 17:23 @kirabug I think you have to click on the thumbnail pictures in the thing on the right - one is the next one, the other is the previous one. #
  • 18:25 @fadeaccompli ...hm. They should have a system to say: "yes, for the next [time period], you may make the same decision on identical cases." #
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Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 04:38 am (UTC)
Depending on how long ago, yes we have. I don't think we've changed that much since, say, 1908. But 1208? Hells yes.
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 07:41 am (UTC)
Some notes on 1908, off the top of my head:

Automobiles were not yet common.

Roads were mostly not paved.

There were no traffic lights.

Long distance communication was still done either by post or telegraph.

Men commonly wore suits to social occasions, coveralls for dirty work, and knickers (woolen pants that buttoned just below the knee) for sport. Women mostly wore long, straight-cut dresses. Guys wore hats, especially inexpensive straw hats.

Bathing suits covered most of the body and were made of wool.

The Wright brothers were still experimenting with basic flight mechanics.

Nikola Tesla had only recently lit up the State Fair, and he and Edison were still in a heated battle over whether electricity should be distributed in AC or DC. Electrical distribution wasn't common yet, and many areas still woke and slept by the sun.

So, "terrified"? Probably not, unless the person landed on the side of a freeway. But it certainly would be disorienting.

Oh, and this is to say nothing of changes in world politics since 1908.
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 09:58 am (UTC)
I didn't say it wouldn't be disorienting.
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 11:12 am (UTC)
Just a random date, really.
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 11:53 am (UTC)
I mean, I don't know history very well; what changed between 1208 and 1908 that would have prepared folk in the latter year for 2008?
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 12:33 pm (UTC)
Well, the invention of electricity for example. Or, hey, that diminishing role of the church in every day life and the increase of secular institutions like science and stuff. Or the lack of, y'know, kings over large parts of the world. Or the fact that we have more than three continents now.

And that's just talking about someone from Europe or the Middle East. I imagine it would even weirder for someone from thirteenth century Africa or North America.

Um.

I'm sorry, the question is like asking what changed between the Bronze and Middle Ages, except even more so.
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 12:37 pm (UTC)
...point.
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 12:38 pm (UTC)
I would have said "trope" rather than "meme".
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 03:09 pm (UTC)
I'm not so sure. A trope is just something which is used in stories a lot - this is something I've heard repeated uncritically in other contexts, too.
Tuesday, October 7th, 2008 05:43 pm (UTC)
Ah, I see. I've only seen it as a story device. That is probably why you used meme!